Some Thoughts On The Online Classifieds Battle

Resident contributor, Ian Timothy picks up on the war going on amongst online classifieds sites and provides an analysis on why and how the proverbial success, Craigslist has succeeded and how one in Singapore might be able to do the same.
The readers of this site might have noticed Singapore’s online classified space heating up. There have been a spate of advertisements for two online classified sites: mocca.com and st701.com. Recently, Gwen had an interview with the founder of Inkiti.com a new entrant into this space When I think of online classifieds, the site that comes to mind is Craigslist, arguably the most successful online classified site, which has a Singapore site.
Although San Francisco and Singapore have similar population densities, based on the Wikipedia entries ‘List Of Cities By Population’ and ‘San Francisco’, it would probably be unfair to compare these two cities to understand the online classifieds space. Also the first city Craigslist started in was San Francisco in 1995 while Singapore’s version of the site started only in 2004. So comparing the usage of Craigslist for these two cities would possibly be unfair.
Let us then compare the Orange County site (which isn’t a city) which started at the same time with Singapore’s. Although its population density is smaller, Orange County has more postings. Here are some numbers which give some indication of how much more postings Orange County has.
For the jobs category, Orange County had 100 posts between 2nd Nov to 4th Nov. For Singapore, the duration of 28 Sep to 4th Nov was needed to obtain 100 posts. For housing, Orange County had 100 posts from 3rd Nov to 4th Nov. For Singapore, the duration was 28 Oct to 4th Nov. For the sales category, 4th Nov alone had 100 posts. Singapore needed the duration 21st Oct to 4th Nov.
Why? I would like to put forth a theory that maybe Singapore’s culture makes it harder for online classifieds to gain traction. How do we clear out stuff we don’t want? Throw at the void deck. Get the Karung Guni man to buy it. Are yard and garage sales part of our culture? Nope. A possible reason could be because most of us don’t have yards or garages to display our stuff for sale. We could use the corridors though. But I digress. The point I’m trying to make with this theory is that a possible reason why online classifieds sites are not as popular in Singapore as opposed to other places with similar population densities and even those lesser is that as an online service, it is not an extension of what we do in the physical world.
So sites competing in this market do not just have to compete with similar sites. They need to expand the market.
Secondly, let us talk about how Craigslist as an online classifieds website got started. It started as a mailing list for local events. The mailing list then expanded to be used by the users for other categories. The users then asked for a web interface.
The thing about the online classifieds sites that are competing in the Singapore space is that they are not starting out with a brand name that people trust although the sites mocca and st701 are probably getting their brand mojo by extension of their parent companies (i.e. MediaCorp and SPH respectively). Craigslist on the other hand slowly built up the trust people gave to the service before expanding to an online classifieds site covering such a wide range of categories.
I think that this is an important point.
An extension of this point is that the sites now are starting with a range of categories that they think people might be interested in or rather they are starting with what are deemed as the standard categories. For example, the categories of ‘CARS’ at st701 and ‘Vehicles’ at mocca. To me, it shows a possible lack of understanding in what is actively being traded between potential users because of the myopia forced upon site developers by the concept of standard categories. What is interesting to note is that Inkiti.com developed by a foreigner might actually have a deeper understanding of the potential users of the service. Why? There is a sub-category for car accessories. If anyone had bothered to research the forums set up for local car enthusiasts in Singapore, they would probably have not missed the fact that cars were not the only thing being traded.
At this junction, it would be useful to go back to the history of Craigslist to learn how possibly to build a successful online classifieds site. Start with a site just to share one particular set of information. Get people who find that information useful. Listen to these people to find what other categories of information they would like to share. Note that in the beginning, the group of people you have might not be big enough such that they would be interested in all types of information. As more people come, the categories can be expanded.
The thing is, I have a feeling everyone in this business tend to look at successful sites like Craigslist as a model and want to get to where they are or close to that. So they build their sites to try to be it, not realizing that Craigslist would not have been Craigslist if it hadn’t start out the way it did which was by providing just one useful service first. Better to have a small home with lots of laughter than a large sprawling mansion with silent deserted rooms.
While I can’t say which site would ultimately be the most successful in Singapore, it might be useful to note how Craigslist did become successful.
Note: Statistics obtained from Wikipedia are used as convenient reference points and should not be considered as accurate.
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7 Comments, Comment or Ping
yanto
Is it fair to compare jobs & housing only? As we all know there have been more prominent portal for those 2 category? How about traffic? Have we consider all classified website?
Nov 6th, 2007
Ian Timothy
Hello yanto. I used three categories as a gauge. If you looked at the numbers I gave, the category that had the biggest difference was in the sales category. You are right though. Singapore has quite a few established sites in the jobs and housing verticals and thus the lack of postings in these categories might be attributed to those sites. However, Craigslist in the US also has to compete with other sites which are specializing in verticals. For example, Monster.com for the jobs vertical.
For this post, I did not do an analysis of the traffic for all the sites mentioned in the post. If you look at st701, they would have more job postings then Craigslist for Singapore within the same timeframe. In a sense, this might mean that maybe localization of a foreign brand in the online classifieds space might not be a viable strategy.
I’ve been thinking about this and maybe a better way to collect data for my theory about the culture issue would be to take the top online classifieds site in Singapore and compare it to the top online classified sites for other cities with a similar population density. That could possibly give a clearer picture.
Thanks for your input. The competition in this space to me is really interesting and thus anything that provokes more thought is always welcomed.
Nov 6th, 2007
Louis-guillaume
Thanks Ian for this analysis. Very interesting.
A new version of Inkiti will be available tomorrow night. Hope you’ll like it !
Nov 6th, 2007
Ian Timothy
Hey, I already like the look of your current site. And I’m not the only one. Over @ http://creativespark.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/mediacorp-vs-sph-giants-prepare-for-the-next-lap/#comments
someone else has also expressed similar sentiments.
Nov 6th, 2007
Louis-guillaume
Thanks for the link ;)
Nov 7th, 2007
D.Sun
I’d like to agree with the point of starting off with a niche and servicing that sector of the masses. I think one of the biggest problems companies get themselves into is that they focus too much on the business and too little on the relationship they have with their customers. Alot of them tend to grow too soon, incorporating too many products and services with no real strong customer base.
Viral marketing is very strong in this aspect I guess, the logic is pretty simple here. Say for example, a guy looking to sell his house is looking for an agent (the position which Mocca.com is trying to replace here), his “selling cycle” starts when he suggests to his wife about it, and his wife agrees. Both of them go on to source for an agent. I would like to think that the first thing that comes to their mind would be friends and family who might have been in contact with an agent who provides good value and service.
The point is Mocca.com came up with real financial backing but no big ass customer following. It just appeared out of the blue and, due to it’s sheer size and technology involved, is kind of overwhelming to some.
Another point I wanna bring up, is their advertising, the message has generally been “how a classified ad on Mocca.com would look or sound like”, however they left out a very very important point. How do I GREATE something like that? As much as blogging and youtube is growing like wildfire nowadays, there are still more people who only know how to read and browse them than people who actually know how to create the contents. I think they should focus a little on providing simple step by step guides in their ads.
just my 2 cents though..
Nov 9th, 2007
Ian Timothy
Hello! Thanks for your comments. With regards to the last one, I totally agree that knowing how to create a good ad is important. Apparently one of the reasons why Google’s AdWords/AdSense have been successful is because they (i.e. Google) encourage people to actually think about how to create good ad copy with the limited amount of characters that appear at the side of the search results.
Nov 9th, 2007
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