A Foreign Entrepreneur Finds It Hard To Scale A Team In Singapore

November 21, 2009 by Guest Contributor  
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Finding it hard to scale a team

French entrepreneur Hugo Angelmar has been based in Singapore working on a startup he co-founded with a few others. Here, he shares his experiences on trying to find computer scientists in Singapore.

Hugo Angelmar writes:

Singapore is a vibrant city, with 4 million people and a number 1 rank as “best place to start a business”.

I moved to Singapore in August, over 3 months ago as part of the internet startup I am a co-founder of: iSyndica. Having spent 6 months in Singapore the year before, I had been accustomed to most elements of the city: the humidity, the food diversity (though I do call Subway my home about half of the week) and the culture. I had heard of great schools, NUS, NTU and SMU, among others. What I had not been prepared for, is the labor market that Singapore would subject our startup to.

isyndica-chart1

The graph above highlights the type of profile iSyndica would like to hire given the current state we are in: early stage startup – less than 12 months old. We want someone who is entrepreneurial because we are all constrained by time, and talented so that he can be productive. A tradeoff of these two can be allowed since an entrepreneurial spirit can be guided, and a talented individual can be trusted to do a proper job. The issue is that in Singapore, there are market dynamics that affect the availability of the three desirable profiles, leaving tech companies in Singapore with an overwhelming, yet undercapacitated, supply of lower quadrant people.

isyndica-chart2

First crunch: The right side of the graph, the group of talented people will seek to go to the US. This is the mecca for computer scientists, startup or not.

Second crunch: Asians are notoriously risk averse and tend to favor brands: Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Avaya and the likes all offer CV validation, a steady paycheck and the comfort that one is on the right track.

Third crunch: Singapore has made the news in the US and Europe as providing a large amount of startup capital to young upstarts. This has made available a flurry of grants of $50,000SGD to a number of fresh graduates (or still in school) students with no experience to build and launch a product to market. Empirically, Singapore hasn’t had any global tech startups (ignoring the surprising story of Creative). Social Wok and Home Camera might be considered exceptions (and where started by experienced individuals) given the overwhelming amount of individuals I’ve seen with their “Founders” or “Directors” business cards of companies. This easy access to funding has diluted the labor market for entrepreneurial people among small projects of 1-2 people.

Fourth crunch: We get money now what? Singapore’s great at providing money. I could be criticized for biting the hands that will feed me but I think my arguments are valid. Singapore is an island of 4 million populated in large parts by foreigners. If I am a Singaporean who has grown on the island, how do I understand how a consumer in the US or Europe (some of the bigger markets) perceives and uses internet services? I don’t. There’s no entry point into the mindset of your target audience, restricting your vision of the world to a smaller Southeast Asian subset.

Macro: Now with the rise of India and China as ecommerce and eservices consumer, Singapore could become a great hub. English-speaking, expat-friendly and politically stable. No, Singapore is too expensive and the labor isn’t there. China is boosting copycats of Youtube, facebook and google with the ferocity of the USSR government during the cold war. And geographically, it isn’t too great either. Being close to the equator means that distances to Europe, the US and China are still there. Over 6 hours to Beijing, 3.5 to Hong Kong, 24 hours to New York on a good day and 12 hours to Paris. I would pick Shanghai possibly as a better base. China has an overwhelming supply of graduates and they are aggressively pushing an R&D capability in computer software and hardware.

Little details: Being US-centric, most our customers and “partners” are in the US. With a 12 hour (13 during DST) time difference with the East Coast, it makes phone conversations, support emails and cold calling very difficult. For a while, one of my team members would be up all night responding to various issues.

Closing Remarks: Let it be noted that there are two dimensions that are important in my above analysis. The first one is that it concerns computer scientists and might not apply to other fields such as biotechnology. Second, Asia is more mobile oriented, which has driven a focus to Java based languages. iSyndica uses C#, .Net and MsSQL which are Microsoft supported technologies which might not be as readily available.

Despite the negatives, Singapore is a good place for Westerners to develop an idea – not develop a business. It is cheap for a developed country, the ease of living provides a nice balance to the toughness of a startup schedule, and getting a business incorporated is fairly easy. We were able to find a talented Chinese software engineer from NTU, giving us hope that we can bring more on board. However, we have begun looking more seriously at neighboring countries for help: India to begin with and probably China.

Anecdotes: A friend who did some recruitment while at Motorola a few years ago complained that 80% of the candidates they interviewed couldn’t code a program in C to determine if a number was odd or even. Another friend working for Avaya similarly complained of recruiting difficulties.

Image courtesy of SubZeroConsciousness.

Editor’s Note: This post was republished with permission from the author.

About the Author

hugoHugo is a co-founder of iSyndica, a digital distribution startup. He spent his early days developing optimization models at a supply chain management startup based in Chicago. After deciding that the Chicago weather was too cold, he elected to go to business school at INSEAD in Singapore and France. Upon graduation, he turned down an offer from Google to join iSyndica to be in charge of Marketing and Business Development.

Hugo holds an MBA from INSEAD, and graduated from Northwestern University with an MS in Industrial Engineering and a BS in Computer Science.

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  • SW Engineer
    Just want to comment about. the statement "in an undersupplied market software engineers can command high salaries" in the figure.

    IMO, the salary of a software engineer in singapore is relatively low. which is why the market is undersupplied at the first place. not the other way round.
  • Dan
    John,

    I think the problem is that programmers and managers underestimate each others role. A start up that only has hardcore developers may make the mistake "well we just need to build our awesome idea into a website and we'll be rich" forgetting that working out the business model for how to make money can be more work than actually developing the website.

    It is all about mutual respect, working together and recognising your own limitations.

    However I do agree that a MBA is only the start. I may give you a set of ideas and a way of looking at the world and is no substitute for really world experience. It is a bit like driving, just because you passed a driving test does not mean you are a good driver.
  • John
    Crunches? Graphs?! That's how managers talks about stuff, not entrepreneurs! Dude, you have to realise your INSEAD degree is absolutely worthless in the world of startups. A MBA doesn't make you an entrepreneurs, for from it!

    My guess is you're stuck in the MBA mindset and you lack programming experience.

    I can only hope one of the other founders of your company (if any) is a hardcore developer. You really need that because you clearly talk on a different leven than entrepreneurs, especially developers.

    It's a common mistake made people with a management background start a company. They think "well we just need some coders to build our awesome idea into a website and we'll be rich". Despite all their fancy management degrees, soon they realise they are actually uncapable to find good developers because they look down on developers, and what they have to offer is fairly limited, and instead of blaming themselves, they find something else to blame (a well known treat among managers).

    If my assumption is correct, and you have no hardcore developers in your board of directors, find one, give him an equal share of the company, and make him responsible for all development related activities of your company. Also, stop talking in MBA terms about your startup.
  • Dan
    Hi Jack, when you say poor in quality could are you able to be more specific? Are there particular gaps or areas of weakness in skill sets that are common amongst Singaporean talent? If you click the link of my name you should see a diagram of that I compiled a while ago which put together the views of a lot of people as to what skills were important in developers. Are there any areas on this diagram where Singaporeans are weak in your experience?
  • Tee
    For some reason, Singaporeans generally do not hold hard core programmers in high regards. Developer are almost always perceived as a "junior" job compared to "Project Manager" or "Business Analyst". As a result, few Singaporeans aspire to be good hand on developers, while there are often more "managers" than developers on a project. I find that very ironic and totally ineffective.

    On your comment for C programmer. Could it be that the candidate simply do not know C? If he can solve the problem with C# or Java or whatever else is available, what difference does it make anyway? My experience is that lots of hiring manager or HR are obsessed over some language syntax (SQL, C#, what not) that can be learned in a day instead of focusing on what the candidate has/can achieved overall.
  • Jack
    The tech talent in Singapore is limited and poor in quality. I don't know if it is the education system or what, it is really tough to find smart guys who likes to take risk.

    I work for a MNC and we bring a lot of guys from outside, that's where the hunger and quality is.
  • Dan
    Very interesting. My question is where does experience fit into your requirements? Sure there are a lot of graduates some more talented than others and some more entrepreneurial than others however they are still graduates all the same with little or no real world experience outside the classroom. Are you able to find people who have already been through the start-up experience before or who have developers who have developed something substantial?
  • Glenn: Thanks for the offer - I'll shoot you an email.

    Gibson: I spoke with a few people in my circle and had too many similar comments to dismiss it. Now is it that bad? I can imagine that my motorola friend might have exaggerated to make her point (or maybe that's how she remembered it....human memory can play tricks) but it certainly got the point across.
  • kumarsg
    hi,
    i agree with you.
    I am also having tough time to get application developers, or say collaborative partner company. I called a local company (So called ecommerce development company) to broaden idea and i gave some hints on how do i want my ecommerce application, but he ended up telling his name "Wicked". he was not really that serious, absolutely no knowledge about what i was mentioning. ..but it seems not easy.to find hardcore programmers
  • Interesting.

    You know, I find you have to "look" in all the right places.
    First, I find the "polys" here are excellent. And the undergrads, as far as local are really good.
    The funny thing is the grads often loose the skill, or are not taught, if we are talking locals.
    This is "slowly" resolving itself, as the programs are changing.

    Second, Recruit from abroad, singapore has great policies for bringing in talent.
    I've had great luck in finding phillipinos, and I currently have a tie-up with a Thai university,
    thats a "UN", and there Master's candidates are really good. (The prof's are also "UN" of education,
    with a strong US/MIT viewpoint).

    Be glad to help, just drop me a comment to glennswest at yahoo dot com dot sg
  • Nice article about the hard truth. That's why we still haven't have that one home run business hit yet. The government funds are just VC money in a way.
  • You'd already be very fortunate to have at least 5 people applying for a programming position.
  • "80% of the candidates they interviewed couldn’t code a program in C to determine if a number was odd or even"->I keep hearing horror stories such as these, but are the 80% candidates really that atrocious?
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